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Them Before Us #011 - What's So Bad About Sperm and Egg Donation?
Them Before Us #011 - What's So Bad About Sperm and Egg Donation?

Season 1 Episode 11

Jenn and Katy discuss chapter 7 of Them Before Us, Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement, the dark side of Donor Conception. They explore t…

2 years, 9 months ago

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Them Before Us #010 - Same-Sex Parenting: Debunking the Myth of “No Difference” Between Same-Sex and Duel-Sex Parenting
Them Before Us #010 - Same-Sex Parenting: Debunking the Myth of “No Difference” Between Same-Sex and Duel-Sex Parenting

Season 1 Episode 9

Jenn and Katy address one of the most pervasive lies in popular culture, the myth that there’s “no difference” in outcomes for children raised by sam…

2 years, 10 months ago

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Them Before Us #009 | Q& A: Why did Katy start TBU, interracial and same-sex adoption, and how can we sustain marriage in society
Them Before Us #009 | Q& A: Why did Katy start TBU, interracial and same-sex adoption, and how can we sustain marriage in society

Season 1 Episode 8

In our first Q&A bonus episode, Katy addresses questions we’ve received from our followers on social media:

Why did Katy start Them Before Us? How…

2 years, 10 months ago

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Them Before Us #008 - Divorce
Them Before Us #008 - Divorce

Season 1 Episode 9

Jenn and Katy tackle a societal issue that has impacted the majority of the population, Chapter Five from her book Them Before Us: Divorce. They expl…

2 years, 10 months ago

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Them Before Us #007 - The devolution of marriage and why it matters.
Them Before Us #007 - The devolution of marriage and why it matters.

Season 1 Episode 7

Jenn and Katy discuss the true definition of marriage, the importance of the marital institution as it relates to the rights of children, and the soc…

2 years, 10 months ago

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Them Before Us #006 - Does gender matter or is it a social construct?
Them Before Us #006 - Does gender matter or is it a social construct?

Jenn and Katy continue to unpack chapters of Them Before Us; Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement. This podcast expounds on Chapter Three:…

2 years, 10 months ago

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Them Before Us #005 - TBU Hot Topics: "Finding a good sperm donor" and reciprocal IVF
Them Before Us #005 - TBU Hot Topics: "Finding a good sperm donor" and reciprocal IVF

Season 1 Episode 4

Jenn and Katy editorialize on two trending news stories that circulated this past month and consider them from the perspective that’s usually missing…

2 years, 10 months ago

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Them Before Us #004 - Does Biology Matter to Kids?
Them Before Us #004 - Does Biology Matter to Kids?

Season 1 Episode 4

Jenn and Katy discuss why “Biology Matters” the second chapter of her book, Them Before Us - Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement. They ex…

2 years, 10 months ago

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Them Before Us #003 - What Does "Children Have Rights" Mean & Surrogacy Breaking News
Them Before Us #003 - What Does "Children Have Rights" Mean & Surrogacy Breaking News

Season 1 Episode 3

Jenn and Katy talk about chapter one in the TBU book: What makes something a right and the what the difference is between natural and legal rights as…

2 years, 11 months ago

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Them Before Us #002 - Katy & Jenn chat about Jenn's background and the distinct angle she brings to the fight for children’s rights.
Them Before Us #002 - Katy & Jenn chat about Jenn's background and the distinct angle she brings to the fight for children’s rights.

Season 1 Episode 2

We flip the script in this Them Before Us podcast episode, where Katy interviews Jenn about the confusion she experienced around gender and sexuality…

2 years, 11 months ago

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