Podcast Episodes

Episode 225 : Claire and Marc Headley Part 1

Episode 225

Nineteen years ago Marc and Claire Headley escaped Scientology, the cult they had grown up in, and started their journey to real freedom. In Part 1 of our conversation with special guest host Michell…

Published on 1 year, 9 months ago

Episode 224 : Gina Pezzullo

Episode 224

Gina Pezzullo has a unique perspective when it comes to MLMs and utilizing social media. Back when she first joined in 2001, smart phones, apps and social media didn't exist. In fact, parties were lo…

Published on 1 year, 10 months ago

Episode 223 : Rachel Weatherly

Episode 223

While browsing the posts on Bluesky, Michelle stumbled across a post for a short film using #antimlm called The Downline. We decided to watch it on Patreon and after I decided to reach out to the fil…

Published on 1 year, 10 months ago

Episode 222 : Romance Scams

Episode 222

It's Valentine's Day AND Life After MLM's 3rd birthday! So to celebrate, we've got a bonus episode loaded with Romance Scam Horror Stories and Red Flag Education. Today's stories were compiled from R…

Published on 1 year, 10 months ago

Episode 221 : Nick Thompson

Episode 221

Back during the pandemic, I got hooked on a reality show called Love is Blind, I couldn't get enough. But as the seasons progressed, there was a level of concern that turned my watching into more of …

Published on 1 year, 10 months ago

Episode 220 : Hannah Alonzo

Episode 220

One of the biggest content requests on my social media has been to collaborate with Hannah Alonzo. So I sent her a message and she was happy to oblige! If you aren't familiar with Hannah (or her cat …

Published on 1 year, 10 months ago

Episode 219 : Darren Mudd

Episode 219

Everyone loves an Amway episode, and this chat with Darren Mudd is no exception. As our deep dive into Amway in Season 4 is just getting started, we meet Darren who tells us about being an Ambot in t…

Published on 1 year, 11 months ago

Episode 218 : Heather Tobin

Episode 218

Heather Tobin has been involved with MLM one way or another for the past 33 years. The farther Heather got away from The MLM Complex, the easier it was for her to see connections between the business…

Published on 1 year, 11 months ago

Episode 217 : Dr. Amy Saltzman, MD

Episode 217

Dr. Amy Saltzman spent over 30 years with a Life Coach who kept her controlled within an intricate web of lies. Once the psychologist read the results of an incredibly thorough mental health evaluati…

Published on 1 year, 11 months ago

Episode 216 : Kelli Copter

Episode 216

*Content Warning : This episode talks about child abuse, disordered eating and suicide attempts in detail. Please use caution when listening to these sensitive subjects.*

Kelli Copter was declared a S…

Published on 1 year, 11 months ago