Podcast Episode Details

Labor Day is over, which means summer is coming to a close. Brian and Dirt catch-up on their summer activities and travel before jumping into a power-packed conversation with Curtis "Chap" Browder. His aggressive life as Alabama's first African American prison chaplain brought him face-to-face with Klan members, racist governors, and murderers. His boldness, bravery, and forgiveness is a stunning example of living history.