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TONIGHT I’m talking with Stephanie Ruhle, on MSNBC’s 11th Hour, about the biggest difference between Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema — the so-called “carried interest loophole” that rewards big bucks to private equity managers.

This week, the spotlight once again will be on Manchin and Sinema (dubbed “Manchinema” by the Washington press corps as the two blocked much of Biden’s agenda) because it’s the Democrats’ last chance for a large package — Manchin has agreed to $790 billion — on the climate and healthcare, financed by a tax increase on the rich and big corporations.

But will Sinema go along?

It has been said that the word “politics” is derived from the Latin “poli,” meaning “many,” and “tics,” small blood-sucking insects. I don’t hold such a cynical view. But I do know, from fifty year’s experience in and around Washington, that most of the people who serve in our nation’s capital have very, very large — shall we say? — ego’s.

Yesterday, Manchin made the rounds of every Sunday talk show — doing what’s known as a “full Ginsburg” (named after William Ginsburg, the lawyer for Monica Lewinsky, who first appeared on all five Sunday morning talk shows on February 1, 1998). Record-keepers note that Manchin is only the 31st newsmaker to have accomplished this feat, but purists dispute his accomplishment because Manchin appeared remotely.

Manchin treated it as a victory lap. He took credit for his newly-named “Inflation Reduction Act” (he refused to allow it to be named “Build Back Better” because he’s still smarting over what he viewed as the Biden administration’s criticism of him for blocking the original BBB).

One interesting sidebar: When Manchin was asked by “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd whether he wanted Democrats to keep control of the House and Senate after the midterms, Manchin declined to answer. (Does he want to hold out the possibility of becoming a Republican kingmaker if the Dems lose?)

Tellingly, Manchin wouldn’t even use the pronoun “we” when talking about the Democrats.

I’ve always made it a point to listen to the pronouns politicians use. The use of pronouns tells you a lot about where a politician’s loyalties lie. Manchin almost never uses “we” when he refers to Democrats. Sometimes, it’s “they.” When Trump was president, he used “we” to refer to the people who voted for him, and “they” for everyone else.

Which brings me to Kristyn Sinema — who uses the pronoun “I” perhaps more frequently than any other contemporary politician. (“I’m always surprised when people say, ‘Oh, she’s an enigma,’” said Sinema in an interview with the Washington Post. “I’m, like, not at all, actually. I’m very straightforward about what I believe in and why I’m doing what I do.”)

“What good would politics be,” Thomas Mann wrote in The Magic Mountain, “if it didn't give everyone the opportunity to make moral compromises?” Sinema seems to relish that opportunity.

Although not up for reelection until 2024, she is one of the senate’s major recipients of Wall Street cash (the finance industry has donated $2.2 million to her since she took office in 2017). She has obliged by, among other things, refusing to close the so-called “carried interest” tax loophole that mostly benefits private-equity investors and hedge fund managers by treating their pay as capital gains (at a tax rate of 20 percent) rather than as ordinary income (36 percent) — even though their pay is ordinary income, since they risk none of their own capital.

By contrast, Manchin wants to close the loophole — or nearly