Episode Details

Mark and John discuss Guillermo del Toro's romantic dark fantasy The Shape of Water (2017) from curious plot holes and gorgeous imagery to the beautifully flawed characters and desperate psychology of the kidnapped gill man. Among the spirited banter we address the abilities of our sympathetic "monster," his origins and biology, how our tax dollars may be funding villains, the delicate topic of cat-eating, needless property destruction and even Stockholm Syndrome. And if you considered our creature influenced by Hellboy's Abe Sapien or the story to Revenge of the Creature (1955; sequel to The Creature from the Black Lagoon), you're not alone.