Episode Details

On this episode of "Death in The Garden," we share an interview we recorded over the summer and never released. It turns out that it was the perfect moment for us to revisit this wonderful conversation we had with Tyson Yunkaporta, member of the Apalech Clan, author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World and lecturer of Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University. We talk about  how civilization is defined by the exportation of entropy through open loop systems, the financialization of climate action, the relationship of being, dying, and being reintegrated into a landscape, the similarities between communism and capitalism, the inherent unsustainability of the way we’re all living our lives, the 1000 year clean-up and the actual plight of the millennial/gen-z generations, the emergent cultures of transition, and the importance of finding humor and laughter in these perilous times.

We hope this conversation lifts your spirits as it has lifted ours. While sobering, the honesty and humor of this conversation is so refreshing and generative – just what we all need right now!

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Editing: Jake Marquez

Music: "If I Ever Leave This World Alive" by Flogging Molly