Episode Details

If you've been searching for the PayPal version of Brad Stone's, The Everything Store, then you can start with Jimmy Soni's new book, The Founders.

In this fast-paced interview with the author, we learn many smaller stories behind the bigger ones of PayPal's big obstacles it faced before its IPO:

• the lack of innovation at the big banks
• Reid Hoffman's role in what PayPal is today
• The combination of X.com and Confinity
• Peter Thiel, the reluctant CEO and the Elon Musk Palace Coupe
• Security - from innocence to frustration to superiority
• The love-hate relationship between PayPal and eBay

Finally, we hit the bookends hard--the three-hour conversation with Elon Musk and the moving and inspiring epilogue.

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