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Oxide and Friends Twitter Space: September 13th, 2021

Docker, Inc., an Early Epitaph

We’ve been holding a Twitter Space weekly on Mondays at 5p for about an hour. Even though it’s not (yet?) a feature of Twitter Spaces, we have been recording them all; here is the recording for our Twitter Space for September 13th, 2021.

In addition to Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal, speakers on September 13th included Steve Tuck, Tom Lyon, Dan Cross, Josh Clulow, Ian, Nick Gerace, Aaron Goldman, Drew Vogel, and vint serp. (Did we miss your name and/or get it wrong? Drop a PR!)

Some of the topics we hit on, in the order that we hit them:

• Topic: Scott Carey’s article How Docker broke in half
  • More by Carey on Docker: 
    • Docker Desktop is no longer free for enterprise users
    • What is Docker? The spark for the container revolution
• Andrej Karpathy’s tweet showing InfoWorld.com spamming ads
• Carey talked to:
  • Solomon Hykes (Docker cofounder with Sebastien Pahl)
  • Ben Golub (Docker CEO 2013-2017)
  • Craig McLuckie (Kubernetes cofounder)
  • Nick Stinemates (early employee and former VP of Business Development)
• [@5:21](https://youtu.be/l9LTJdT0sZ8?t=321) Akira Kurosawa’s 1950 Rashomon ~90mins. Watch a 2min trailer
• Box office bomb “The Hottie and the Nottie” movie. Other stinkers: Gigli, Gotti
• [@9:31](https://youtu.be/l9LTJdT0sZ8?t=571) Jerry Kaplan’s 1996 book Startup: A Silicon Valley Adventure
• Steve’s take on commercialization > Bryan: There’s no question that they hit on something very big. > We saw a container as an operational vessel, but we failed to see > a container as a development vessel.
• [@14:36](https://youtu.be/l9LTJdT0sZ8?t=876) dotCloud (PaaS) struggles to find a buyer; ultimately open sources as last resort > All of a sudden a company that nobody had heard of, > was a company that everybody had heard of.
• They took too much money.
• [@17:40](https://youtu.be/l9LTJdT0sZ8?t=1060) Pitfalls in raising money and scaling sales by imitating big companies
  • HBO’s Silicon Valley
    • Clip ~1min with Jan the Man, Keith, and Doug (I’m shadowing Keith) > Everybody should be spending time arm in arm with customers understanding > how is this technology going to solve a problem > which they’ll want to pay to ha