Episode Details

Today we're joined by Hillsong Channel host Natalie Manuel Lee. We talk about knowing how to bridge the gap between your gifts and your purpose, and keeping your head on straight when it feels like things are falling apart. And as great as that conversation is, we should be honest this episode actually gets into the ridiculousness ditch for the first half. The "Boys Are Back In Town" .... because Jamie isn't on this one. It's a hilarious episode, but substance does happen eventually. We promise. 

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