Episode Details

I sat down with my friend Emma Jo Boyden, a Chicago actor, stunt performer, and Call of Duty motion capture performer. We start with me staging a full hoarding intervention (she says she’s a maximalist, I say look at the wall).

From there we get into her stunt doubling for a nun while hauling a 50 pound coffin on a kids’ bike, and yes, I had to bring up my own nun era in The Exorcist. She did dance recitals in a Reno casino next to the fight ring girls. An LA manager once told her she’d be a star if she lost 20 pounds and dyed her hair red, so she moved to Chicago instead. Then Hot Cakes casually reveals she’s been lit on fire. Multiple times. On purpose. I’m still not okay. We also cover her manifesting powers that only work for bad things, her haunted childhood home full of mirrors, and Batzee, the beach game she invented when she turned 30.

Follow Emma at @em_jo_bo and check out Batzee at @playbatzee.

In this episode:

• 00:00 Hoarder or maximalist?
• 02:00 Stunt doubling a nun on a kids’ bike
• 03:30 Our nun eras
• 05:28 Dance recitals in a Reno casino
• 07:13 Showcasing in New York, LA, and Chicago
• 08:41 How she got into boxing and MMA
• 11:00 Kicked out of a haunted house for punching a performer
• 11:41 Emma, please do stand up
• 14:13 Hot Cakes
• 15:20 Wait, you’ve been on fire?
• 18:30 Manifesting on a women’s stunt team
• 20:46 D&D dice protein ice cream (I have questions)
• 22:00 My theory on manifesting
• 25:09 Her haunted childhood home
• 28:43 Batzee, the game she invented
• 31:36 Breakfast, murder jokes, and cops

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Ilse Will Say is an Intrepida Entertainment podcast, hosted by Ilse Zacharias Rivera. Produced and edited by Jacob Cagle. Music by Eric Backus. Photography by Joel Maisonet.

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