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What if the life you’ve been taught to want isn’t actually the life you want?

In this interview episode, I’m joined by my client, friend, and fellow former teacher Mary-Pat Moran for a conversation about perfectionism, self-trust, self-abandonment, and what it really looks like to redefine success on your own terms.

We talk about the sneaky ways perfectionism can show up- even when you don’t consider yourself a perfectionist. Sometimes it isn’t color-coded planners or obsessing over every tiny detail. It’s getting another certification before you feel ready. Waiting to launch until everything is “right.” Procrastinating because you don’t want to be bad at something new. Or staying in situations you’ve already outgrown because disappointing someone feels worse than disappointing yourself.

We get into self-abandonment, Good Girl conditioning, motherhood, business, relationships, sunk cost fallacy, and everything in between. 

In this episode, we talk about:

• How perfectionism can disguise itself as procrastination, over-preparing, and avoiding being a beginner
• Why being willing to be bad at something is often the fastest path to becoming good at it
• How Good Girl conditioning teaches women to prioritize being respectable, responsible, and liked over being fully themselves
• The connection between people-pleasing and self-abandonment
• How self-abandonment can show up in your business and client relationships
• Why motherhood can completely change your definition of success
• The hidden opportunity cost of staying in a career, relationship, business model, or version of yourself you’ve outgrown
• Why the time and money you’ve already invested isn’t a reason to keep choosing something that no longer fits
• How to redefine success around freedom, fulfillment, impact, and the life you actually want
• Why changing your mind doesn’t mean you failed—it can mean you finally trust yourself enough to choose differently

If you’ve ever thought, “I should be happy with what I have,” while quietly knowing you want something more, this episode is for you.

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