Episode Details

In 1991, a 19-year-old pre-med student was diagnosed with end-stage ovarian cancer and told nothing could be done. She is still alive. Dr. Nasha Winters joins Dr. Philip Ovadia and Jack Heald to trace the strange, unscripted path that got her there, and the decades of research since that convinced her modern oncology is aiming at the wrong target entirely.

Winters, now a naturopathic oncologist who has trained clinicians in 46 countries, argues that cancer and heart disease are not the separate diseases we treat them as, and that both persist because medicine keeps chasing a single mutation or a single marker while ignoring the environment those cells live in. She walks through what happens when a patient's terrain, not just their tumor, becomes the focus, using a recent case involving her own mother's stroke and another involving a woman whose pancreatic cancer went undiagnosed for years despite warning signs sitting in her chart.

This conversation covers the biology of stress and immune function, the limits of standard-of-care protocols, and what questions patients should be asking before they accept a diagnosis at face value.

BIG IDEA

Cancer and heart disease are not separate battles but the same underlying failure of terrain, and medicine keeps losing ground by treating the tumor instead of the environment that made it possible.

Contact Info Dr. Nasha Winters, Naturopathic Oncologist
email: info@tendtheterrain.com
Website: drnasha.com
Book: A Metabolic Approach to Cancer: https://amzn.to/4wJOdct
Paper: Modulation of Cytokine Expression by Traditional Medicines: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16813462/
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Dr. Mina Bissell: The Extra Cellular Matrix https://www.ted.com/talks/mina_bissell_experiments_that_point_to_a_new_understanding_of_cancer
Dr. Robert Ader: Psycho Neuro Immunology https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(12)60134-2/fulltext
Dr. Candace Pert: Molecules of Emotion https://amzn.to/4wIELWt
Dr. Bruce Lipton: https://amzn.to/4fXAfMI

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