Episode Details

What does it mean to build the next generation of legal technology when law firms, legal teams, and AI companies are all rethinking what lawyers can do? 

In this episode of AI Sidebar, Irene Liu talks with Jason Boehmig, who leads Astra for Law, OpenAI’s legal vertical. Before joining OpenAI, Boehmig founded Ironclad, one of the companies that helped reshape modern legal technology.

Together, they discuss the evolution of legal tech and the future of AI in law. Boehmig reflects on the rise of legal engineering, the launch of Astra for Law, and what “AGI for law” could mean in practice. Irene and Jason also explore why keeping lawyers in the loop matters as AI becomes more capable, and how these tools could help lawyers deliver better service, expand access to legal help, and focus more on the judgment and guidance at the heart of lawyering.

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Chapters:

(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:00:59) From Ironclad to OpenAI
(00:02:47) Legal Tech’s Evolution
(00:07:01) Law Firms and Legal Teams as Builders
(00:08:43) Introducing Astra for Law
(00:14:49) Early Access and Legal Tech Partners
(00:15:26) Accuracy, Trust, and Human Review
(00:18:44) Why Build at the Model Layer?
(00:21:09) The Rise of Legal Engineering
(00:28:56) Building AGI for Law
(00:31:08) Keeping Lawyers at the Center
(00:32:11) The Most Exciting Part of Building Astra for Law
(00:33:31) Conclusion

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