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Back to EpisodesTesla: Bullish on the Company, Bearish on the Stock
Description
Stephen and Andrew ignore the headlines and the Twitter drama and look at Tesla the company — the EVs, the $30 billion robotaxi bet, the robots, and a balance sheet holding roughly $44 billion in liquid assets. Both are bullish on the business. Neither will touch the stock at $393 with a trailing PE over 300. Along the way: Stephen's biggest investing regret (an Army signing bonus that could have bought Tesla at the IPO), why Andrew isn't shaking his 11% Uber position, and the question hanging over it all — how much of the Tesla bear case is just feelings about Elon?
What You Will Learn
Why letting personal bias about a CEO dictate allocation destroys wealth
The story of Stephen's Tesla IPO miss — and what it taught him about IPOs
What Tesla's $30B in new financing is really funding (robotaxis, semis, robots)
The robotaxi debate: constitutional concerns vs. the unit-economics reality
Why Tesla's balance sheet looks like Apple's — and why Moody's disagrees
Where to draw the line between investing with your conscience and investing on vibes
Timestamps
00:00 – Why we're talking Tesla (and ignoring all the drama)
02:00 – Confession: the Jeep guy loves EVs
06:00 – Stephen's biggest regret: the IPO that got away
10:00 – Tesla today: $30B financing, new mission statement, Megapack
15:00 – Robotaxis: Stephen's concerns vs. Andrew's Uber bull case
25:00 – Valuation check: $393 stock, 331 PE, waiting for $275
37:00 – The $44 billion balance sheet
40:00 – "I'm not looking at him as my friend, I'm looking at him as an ATM"
47:00 – Can legacy automakers catch up?
51:00 – Robots building robots, and why optimism wins
Resources Mentioned
The Value Spotlight Newsletter: https://einvestingforbeginners.com/value-spotlight-newsletter/
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