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Sarah joins the podcast to explain how she — like so many smart, capable people — ended up pulled in, and why she believes almost anyone can fall into a cult under the right circumstances. She and Julian talk through the comparisons to Scientology and how HBO's "The Vow" covered the story, before getting into what it was actually like on the inside with Keith Raniere and the DOS sub-group, along with her own background in acting.

She walks through returning to Vancouver, her connection to Sarma, and why she believes she was uniquely "ripe" for a cult at that point in her life. The conversation covers "What the Bleep Do We Know," a film tied to how she started shifting her consciousness, and a broader discussion on situational vulnerability — how the right person at the wrong moment becomes an easy target. She also gets into being open-minded but carrying real angst, microdosing, the curriculum itself, and how she met Mark along the way.

The episode closes with a wider conversation on Rose McGowan, Harvey Weinstein, Hollywood's own cult-like structures, and the parallels she sees to the Epstein network.

0:00 Intro

1:28 Many people can fall into cults... Scientology, HBO's The Vow

12:54 Good until it got dark, Keith, DOS, Sarah's acting background

23:34 Returning to Vancouver, Sarma, being ripe for a cult

33:02 What The Bleep, shifting consciousness, situational vulnerability

44:57 Open-minded but angst, LSD, microdosing, curriculum, meeting Mark

54:47 Rose McGowan, Weinstein, Hollywood cults, Epstein parallels

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