Episode Details

Don Was is a Detroit native who went from playing bar gigs and gypsy weddings around the city to producing the Rolling Stones, Bonnie Raitt, and Bob Dylan, and eventually running Blue Note Records. This is his full conversation with host Hanif Abdurraqib.

Was traces the raw, unpretentious sound of Detroit back to the city's one-industry economy and the immigrant communities, Mexican, Arabic, Eastern European, Southern, who brought their music with them after World War II. He talks about coming up broke in the 1970s, working bar gigs for ten dollars a night, and the strange turning point that came from an involuntary Dale Carnegie sales course after he took a job repairing copy machines. He also explains why Detroit's lack of a mentorship culture in engineering and production, unlike the scene around players like Marcus Belgrave, forced him and his peers to invent their own methods, and why that isolation became a creative advantage rather than a handicap.

He also breaks down the Detroit radio landscape that shaped him, from the Grande Ballroom and the Amboy Dukes to Electrifying Mojo, the DJ whose genre-blind playlists reshaped how Warner Brothers marketed Black and white artists and helped give rise to Detroit techno. He talks about producing Bonnie Raitt's Nick of Time as a turning point for women in rock, the studio access that only a broke city like Detroit could offer him, and why he eventually moved back home to record his own album with Don Was & The Pan Detroit Ensemble.

CHAPTERS

00:21 - Detroit's Blue Collar DNA and the Rawness of Its Music

03:26 - The Musical Jambalaya: How Immigrant Communities Shaped Detroit's Sound

04:40 - Broke in Detroit: Bar Gigs, Debt, and the Dale Carnegie Course That Changed Everything

08:51 - No Mentorship, No Cliches: How Isolation Forced a New Sound

13:29 - The Grande Ballroom, the Mump, and Teenage Freedom

17:45 - George Clinton's Sock Hop, Bob Seger's Voice, and the Golden Age of Detroit Radio

21:14 - Electrifying Mojo: The DJ Who Changed Music Globally

26:11 - Bonnie Raitt's Nick of Time and a Turning Point for Women in Rock

28:51 - Leaving Detroit and the Advantage of Learning in Isolation

31:28 - Coming Home: Don Was & The Pan Detroit Ensemble, and Why You Should Never Give Up

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