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Bringing Dying Back Into the Community with Hannah Fowler

Bringing Dying Back Into the Community with Hannah Fowler

Episode 178 Published 2 weeks, 2 days ago
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What could end-of-life care look like if caring for people who are dying became more of a community responsibility?


In this episode, Jill talks with nurse Hannah Fowler about small, community-based homes for people at the end of life and the role these spaces can play for people who may not have family, caregivers, or a safe place to die.


Hannah shares how her work in nursing and hospice eventually brought her to the Center for Conscious Living & Dying in Asheville, now called Emberlight. She and Jill talk about the value of keeping these homes small and rooted in their communities, as well as Jill’s involvement in creating a similar three-bed home in Philadelphia.


They also get into some of the harder questions surrounding this work. How do death doulas charge for care when so much of what they provide is presence, time, reassurance, and education? 


Why are some hospice organizations hesitant to work alongside doulas, while others are finding ways to collaborate?


Hannah shares some of what she learned from being part of a community caring for people who were dying, including how the model supported not only residents, but volunteers, caregivers, and hospice professionals.


The conversation also explores the personal side of doing this work—trauma, triggers, boundaries, shadow work, and the ways being close to death can bring us face-to-face with parts of ourselves we may otherwise avoid.


Hannah now brings these experiences into her work through the School of the Red Skywalker, where she offers community circles, mentorship, education, and leadership support focused on creating healthier ways of caring for ourselves and one another.



00:00 Letting Go of Perfection

01:26 Meet Hannah Faller

02:47 Starting a Community Home

04:33 Charging for Presence

08:28 Emberlight Model

10:13 Hospice and Doula Bridge

11:59 Volunteer Firekeeping Care

16:25 Overnight Staffing Reality

18:57 Building Volunteer Community

20:09 Finding Connection and Belonging

22:13 Separation and Meaning

23:58 Shadow Work at Bedside

25:08 Death as Catalyst

27:39 Triggers and Limits

29:29 Loving Activation

31:11 Bridging Spirit and Shadow

33:29 Choosing Hard Experiences

37:06 Adaptations and Integration

38:34 Witnessing Without Judgment

39:35 Numbing and Forgiveness

41:49 Red Skywalker Offerings

44:16 Ripple Effects and Rebuilding

46:53 Ways to Work Together

48:00 Closing Thanks and Ripples


 https://www.redskywalker.school

Hannah@redskywalker.school



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