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You can feel it when someone has actually built a home care agency the hard way and kept it growing for years. Mark Dermont, a seasoned Touching Hearts franchise owner in New York, joins us for a candid look at what happens behind the scenes: the first-year stress of no paycheck, the “always on” on-call phone, and the unglamorous work of learning elder care and earning trust one relationship at a time.

We dig into home care marketing and referral strategy with real specificity, including the referral sources that consistently produce high-quality cases: private geriatric care managers, discharge planners and social workers in short-term rehab, and key contacts inside senior living communities. Mark also draws a clear line between community relations and true sales, explaining why being liked and being effective are not the same thing. If you’ve ever hired a “networker” and wondered why the phone still isn’t ringing, this conversation gives you a better hiring lens.

Then we get tactical with sales KPIs, CRM-based accountability, and what “fast response” really looks like when families are in crisis. Mark shares how his team works to book face-to-face intake quickly, why qualified leads are the metric he watches hardest, and how to sell value even when you are not the cheapest agency in town. We also talk resilience during unexplained revenue dips, scaling across multiple offices, and using diagnostics to figure out whether a plateau is a process problem, a people problem, or both.

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