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Back to EpisodesThe 4 Branches of Creativity Most School Leaders Ignore with Susan Riley
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Creativity in schools isn't about talent, it's a system. Budget cuts and constraints make your team more creative, not less.Creativity in schools gets treated like an elective — something reserved for art class and cut the moment budgets tighten.
Creativity researcher and author Susan Riley joins the show to make the case that creativity is a trainable system every school leader can build, not a talent some people have and others don't. Susan breaks creativity into four branches — creative skills, creative application, creative thinking, and creative expression — and explains why most schools only ever touch one or two of them.
She also unpacks why AI is raising the stakes on creative and critical thinking, how daily habits build creative capacity over time, and why a constraint like a 20% budget cut can sharpen a team's creative response instead of shutting it down. If you're a school leader trying to build a campus experience that doesn't run on autopilot, this conversation gives you a framework and a set of practices to start with tomorrow.
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⌚️ TIMESTAMPS:- 00:00 - How schools kill creativity while fearing AI
- 05:40 - The Super Soaker story on unplanned creativity
- 06:56 - Can creativity actually be trained
- 09:10 - Susan's morning habit for daily creativity
- 12:16 - How creativity differs for teachers versus leaders
- 14:57 - The four branches of creativity explained
- 18:34 - Why creativity is the human edge over AI
- 22:46 - Creative moments versus creative systems
- 31:42 - The Dr. Seuss story on creative constraints
- 35:39 - Improv games that build hard fun
- 39:27 - Designing environments that support creativity
- 42:52 - The see-think-wonder walk exercise
- 45:26 - Three principles for building your dream school
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