Episode Details

This week, From Underdog to Entrepreneur flips the script. Instead of hosting, Pat Miller sits in the guest chair as fellow podcaster and friend Sarah Walton takes over the mic to interview Pat about her brand-new book, Underdog to Empire. It's a rare, personal look behind the scenes of the show and behind the woman who's spent every week asking other entrepreneurs to share their stories.

Pat opens up about the difference between her first book, a memoir written from a dark, rebuilding chapter of her life, and this second book, which captures her shift from surviving to thriving. She shares the real, unfiltered story of nearly shelving the project entirely, juggling schedules, doubting herself, and wondering if it was even worth finishing, and the moment that changed her mind.

Chapters

0:01 Intro – Sarah Walton Takes Over as Host
1:05 Why Pat Did a Role Reversal Interview
4:34 Pat's First Book: "Kicking Karma's Ass"
6:06 Why She Wrote Book Two: Underdog to Empire
8:28 Standing Out Instead of Fitting In
9:51 The Story of "Nobody Listens to the Blonde"
11:18 Confronting a Client Who Crossed the Line
17:02 Almost Not Finishing the Book
18:56 Feeling Disheartened After Losing Bids
19:38 The Phone Call That Changed Everything
20:50 "Rejection Is God's Protection and Redirection"
21:27 The Moment She Decided Not to Quit
24:34 Why She Keeps Writing and Sharing Her Story
26:43 The Importance of In-Person Connection
28:10 Advice for Anyone in an "Underdog Moment"
30:58 Surviving vs. Thriving
31:34 Her Favorite Chapter to Write
32:59 Where to Get Underdog to Empire & Launch Party Details

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The story of how a girl who ate last at the dinner table built a construction company from a $100 bill. How she lost her husband and still got back up. How every person who tried to hold her back ended up building her up instead.

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