Episode Details

The countdown to new Long Story Short eps continues, but in the meantime Eugene and Adam caught up with Dame Juliet Gerrard, former chief science adviser to PM Jacinda Ardern (as well as two other PMs called Chris). We first met Dame Juliet when doing interviews for the podcast Quarantine Nation, about NZ’s experience of the Covid pandemic. She was a great interview subject back then, so when we heard she’d written a whole book about her time advising the government on matters scientific, we had to read it, and then after reading it we had to talk to her. Luckily, we hit record, so now you can listen to that conversation.

Links to stuff in the episode

- Dame Juliet’s book: https://aucklanduniversitypress.co.nz/front-row-seat/

- Stuck: How Vaccine Rumours Start and Why They Don’t Go Away: global.oup.com/academic/product/stuck-9780190077242

- You Are Here: A Field Guide for Navigating Polarized Speech, Conspiracy Theories, and Our Polluted Media Landscape: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262361378/you-are-here/

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