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Back to EpisodesEP 183: Nobody Wants Lumber — Even With Inventories Running on Fumes
Description
The lumber market is heading into Q4 with an unusual setup: inventories across the supply chain appear extremely lean, yet buyers still aren't willing to take much risk.
In Episode #183, Ashley, Matt, Gregg and Charles dig into what's actually trading versus published prices, growing price disparities between mills, tightening truck availability, rail issues and the increasingly important role of freight. The group also breaks down housing starts, builder headwinds, interest rates and what declining demand could mean for mill production and lumber prices into year-end.
With 2x4 looking increasingly vulnerable while several other items remain historically expensive, the conversation turns to the real question for Q4: What should you own, what should you sell, and where is the opportunity?
Timeline00:00 Housing & the Q4 Setup
02:03 Lumber Inventories Running Low
04:03 Less Lumber Than Last Year?
06:06 The Hedging Problem
08:04 Trucking Gets Ugly Again
11:07 Hem-Fir, SPF & Real Prices
13:05 Futures vs. Cash
14:23 Huge Mill Price Disparities
15:37 Are Contract Buyers Overpaying?
16:24 Southern Pine Pricing
19:04 Freight Becomes the Wild Card
22:00 Hem-Fir vs. SPF
24:13 What Changes This Market?
28:20 Rates & Housing Affordability
30:39 Are Builders Slowing Down?
32:04 The Bearish Q4 Case
34:25 Navigating Q4
35:28 Where Opportunities Still Exist
36:21 Apathy Defines the Market
36:39 What to Own & What to Sell
38:06 Marry, Date or Dump
39:03 Where Pine Prices Could Go
39:44 Final Thoughts
Advertiser
Fastmarkets RISI
Tiranth Amarasinghe
Product Marketing Manager
Tiranth.Amarasinghe@fastmarkets.com
Show Contacts:
Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com
Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com
Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com
Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com