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FRIED Fam,

Your company cares about mental health. There is a flyer in the break room, a pizza party in September, and an EAP number nobody calls. And people are still quietly drowning at their desks.

This week I sit down with Jessi Beyer, MHP, a crisis mental health professional and former SWAT negotiator, to draw a hard line between crisis awareness (the flyer and the pizza party) and crisis readiness (actual skills that change what happens when a human being is struggling in front of you). Jessi has talked people off ledges for a living. Now she teaches workforces to handle the moment someone finally says "I can't do this anymore."

If you are a leader who thinks this is a non-issue because nobody has died on your watch, this one is for you. If you are the high achiever hiding your burnout behind your work and holding it together nine to five while falling apart at home, this one is also for you. Burnout is not a people problem. It is a readiness problem, and readiness is a skill you can build in fifteen minutes.

What we get into

Why the skeptical executive thinks workplace mental health is a non-issue, and the case that changes their mind

Crisis awareness versus crisis readiness (why the pizza party does nothing)

The LIFE model, and why "just listen" is harder and more useful than it sounds

Why Jessi is at war with EAPs, and the gap between someone struggling and someone actually calling for help

What actually counts as a crisis (hint: it is not only suicide)

Why your best people are the last ones to show they are burning out

The de-escalation skills that keep YOU safe in a toxic workplace, straight from hostage negotiation

What it does to your body to stay in a toxic environment

Why 15 minutes is the real ask, and what it means if your company cannot find it

Who decided you had to be the one to save the world

Moments worth the replay

"Crisis awareness is a flyer and a pizza party. It does not actually provide any skills that can impact the lives of the people who are struggling." — Jessi Beyer

"I am in a war against EAPs. Keep the EAP. But that is the end of the sequence. It is not the beginning, and it is not the whole thing." — Jessi Beyer

"Most people who burn out are high achievers, and they know how to hide behind their work. Work is the last place they show it." — Cait Donovan

"You can use these skills to keep yourself safe and survive whatever situation you are in. And that includes toxic workplaces." — Jessi Beyer

"If you cannot set aside fifteen minutes to have this conversation, that is a symptom of a much bigger problem." — Jessi Beyer

"Who decided that you had to be the one to save the world?" — Jessi Beyer

Mentioned in this episode

The LIFE model (Jessi's crisis-response framework)

Employee Assistance Programs (EAPs) and the readiness gap around them

Jessi's free suicide-risk readiness diagnostic for teams of 100+

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Why Companies Are Afraid to Talk About Workplace Wellness (And What That Silence Is Costing Them) — #straightfromcait: https://redcircle.com/shows/e4c0db0a-98a4-47e6-a2b0-6a291469e1d6/episodes/178d7007-e654-46eb-8af7-9815228feb31

The Workplace is a Trauma Recycling Center — #straightfromcait (FRIED #15): https://redcircle.com/shows/e4c0db0a-98a4-47e6-a2b0-6a291469e1d6/episodes/d20e94d2-7f75-40ee-bb1c-ccc7efd26193

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