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Special re-release! To close out the year, we’re counting down the Top 10 most-listened-to episodes of 2025. Coming in at #3: Zibby’s interview with Jen Hatmaker. Enjoy!

Zibby interviews beloved New York Times bestselling author and host of the For the Love podcast, Jen Hatmaker, about her brutally honest, funny, and revealing new memoir, AWAKE. Jen opens up about the heartbreak of her 26-year marriage ending, the grief and disorientation that followed, and the slow, painful climb back toward wholeness. She and Zibby explore themes of love, loss, faith, resilience, healing, and the profound support of family and friends. Jen also shares why she chose to tell her story through raw, unpolished vignettes and how writing the book became both an act of truth-telling and a tribute to the people who loved her back to life.

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