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Today on Nobody Knows Anything, Rob and Jesse dive into the latest twists in the Democratic Party's 2028 landscape, starting with Gavin Newsom's surprising pledge not to run if Kamala Harris enters the race. They unpack why Newsom made the statement, what it says about his presidential ambitions, and whether the apparent truce between two of the party's biggest California figures can actually last.

From there, they turn to the growing debate over Democrats and artificial intelligence. With members of Congress facing pressure to regulate a technology many of them barely use, Rob and Jesse explore why understanding AI matters for policymakers—and why the party's approach to AI could become a major political opportunity heading into the next election cycle.

The conversation then takes a closer look at Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker and his increasingly prominent role in the Democratic Party. His chief of staff explains how Pritzker approached AI regulation in Illinois, why the governor has been pushing back against major tech interests, and what his record on technology, regulation, and other issues could mean for his potential 2028 ambitions.

They also discuss the Democratic Party's prospects in the midterms, the influence of money and the tech industry in politics, and whether Democrats can translate frustration among voters into a broader political comeback. Finally, they look at where Pritzker fits into the party's future—and whether Democrats can embrace a more aggressive approach to governing if they regain power.

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