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Back to EpisodesEp. 81 - The Golden Spiral Path: Why Healing Isn't a Straight Line with Dr. Leslie B. Newman
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On this episode, Kathy sits down with Dr. Leslie B. Newman — psychologist, positive psychology educator, and author of A Daily Dose of Happiness — for a conversation about what happens when healing stops being a straight line.
Dr. Leslie introduces her Magic Closet practice, a way of meeting a triggered emotional reaction with curiosity instead of judgment, and unpacks the difference between mindset and what she calls mood set — the emotional baseline we return to underneath our thoughts. The two of them trace her golden spiral path framework, a Wizard of Oz–inspired map for growth that circles back around rather than marching forward in a straight line, revisiting the same lessons with more capacity each time.
The conversation lands on a single word: deserve. Dr. Leslie shares how reclaiming that word after a narcissistic relationship became the title of her book, and what it means to receive good things without having to perform for them first.
This episode speaks directly to anyone who recognizes Type C coping mechanisms in themselves — people-pleasing, conflict avoidance, emotional suppression — and is ready to find their way back to feeling.
Topics Discussed
- emotional healing
- people pleasing
- emotional regulation
- self compassion
- positive psychology
- mind body connection
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