Episode Details

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Chapters

00:00 Growing Up When Careers Weren't an Option

01:12 Why She Went to India Instead of Getting Married

03:53 Starting Ms. Magazine

04:54 Abortion Rights Then, Now, and What to Do

07:31 Responding to Workplace Sexism

09:24 Building Things With Other Strong Women

10:44 Reflections on Confidence

12:21 Fashion as a Political Statement

13:39 Why America Has Never Had a Woman President

14:36 Staying in the Fight Without Burning Out

17:40 Legacy and Advice for the Next Generation

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