Episode Details

Rick McGuigan asked Larry Braun to join his company for ten years. Larry kept saying "you can't afford me." They finally settled it on a napkin.

In this episode, host Clinton James sits down with Rick McGuigan and Larry Braun of Pine Ridge Cleaning and Restoration in Cleveland, Ohio. Rick bought a small carpet cleaning business in 2003 and grew it to $3.5M largely on his own. Larry came out of 30 years in steel. Together they've taken Pine Ridge into mitigation, reconstruction, and contents.

You'll walk away with:

• Why the visionary and integrator split works, and why two visionaries would have sunk them
• Why Larry spent a year learning the business before changing any of it
• How they built a contents division in eight weeks after avoiding it for years
• Why they hired a department manager with no restoration experience at all
• Why Pine Ridge doesn't use job titles, and what that does for the culture
• How they handle disagreements without letting them fester

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