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Content Note: This episode includes discussions of domestic violence, sexual violence, childhood trauma, and abuse.
For decades, the response to domestic violence has focused on more arrests, harsher penalties, and longer sentences. But if punishment alone worked, why do the same cycles continue from one generation to the next?
In this episode, Dimple sits down with Liz Ortenburger, CEO of SafeNest, to explore what it truly takes to prevent violence, not just respond after the harm has already happened.
Liz shares how witnessing an abusive partner treatment session changed the way she understood violence and why supporting survivors must be paired with meaningful accountability and treatment for those causing harm.
Together, Dimple and Liz unpack why “Why doesn’t she just leave?” is the wrong question. They discuss how financial abuse, children, family, culture, religion, trauma bonds, and the fear of starting over can make leaving far more complicated than many people realize.
In this conversation, you’ll learn:
• Why domestic violence is often a pattern, not one isolated incident
• How childhood trauma can help explain abusive behavior without excusing it
• Why punishment-first systems may miss opportunities for lasting change
• How to recognize when a relationship no longer feels emotionally safe
• Practical first steps for survivors, people concerned about their own behavior, and anyone who wants to help
• Why early intervention and healthy role models could help break generational cycles of violence
This is an honest and compassionate conversation about survivor safety, personal accountability, prevention, and what it will take to create lasting change.
Learn more about Liz and SafeNest at https://safenest.org.
Connect with Liz Ortenburger here!
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