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Jerry was driving home from work when Jesus appeared to him.

What he remembers most is the love. It was so direct and overwhelming that his first reaction was resistance.

In this episode of Jerry and Abigail: An Intimate Dialogue, Jerry and Abigail talk about that encounter, what it means to receive love, and why being loved can sometimes feel exposing.

Abigail brings a very different perspective to Jesus. As a Jewish philosopher, she has never understood Jesus as necessary to a relationship with God. She talks about the difference between the historical Jesus and the Christian doctrines that came later, including Original Sin and the idea of Jesus as an intermediary.

They also take on Freud, Darwin, human nature, and the kinds of theories people absorb so deeply that they can start to feel more real than experience itself.

Abigail returns to the subject of evil, something she explored in A Good Look at Evil. She argues that evil cannot always be explained away as deprivation, misunderstanding, or psychological dysfunction. Sometimes it has to be recognized plainly for what it is.

Nietzsche, skepticism, self-trust, and cultural fashion all come into the picture as Jerry and Abigail ask what helps us stay connected to reality instead of getting lost in theories about it.

Throughout the episode, love keeps coming back as something more demanding than a feeling. It means paying attention, using judgment, taking responsibility, and trying to do right by the people in front of you.

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Radically Personal: God and Ourselves in the New Axial Age

God: An Autobiography, As Told to a Philosopher

Confessions of a Young Philosopher

A Good Look at Evil

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