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In Independence, Missouri, city council member John Perkins was recalled after voting to approve massive tax incentives for a new AI data center — sparking what may be the first wave of recall efforts nationwide tied to such deals. The controversy erupted in March when the council fast-tracked millions in breaks for Nebius AI, prompting a grassroots group to demand a public vote — which the city initially blocked, leading to legal battles. After months of organizing, voters finally got their chance to act, showing how deeply local communities can mobilize over economic development. Perkins, now out of office, reflects on the ease of recalls and his future plans — including tackling homelessness and possibly running again. Despite the division, he hopes the community can move forward, even if they disagree on the issue.

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