Episode Details

Nir Eyal is the author of Hooked, which became Silicon Valley's playbook for building habit-forming products, Indistractable, on taking your attention back, and the new book Beyond Belief. He taught at Stanford's Graduate School of Business and is one of the sharpest thinkers on what to do with technology.

In this episode of Summation, Nir and Auren discuss:

• Why to-do lists set you up to feel like a failure and what to do instead
• Why 90% of the time you check your phone, it's an uncomfortable emotion, not a notification
• Why beliefs are tools, not truths, and how swapping one can end your suffering
• Why this is the safest generation of kids in history and still gets a moral panic

You can find Auren Hoffman on X at @auren and Nir Eyal on X at @nireyal