Episode Details

This week, meditation experts Susanne Ahlendorf and Martin Bruders are back for a conversation with Thomas on the important role of meditation in a committed spiritual practice and how to embody a meditative state in everyday life.

They discuss the relationship between meditative and spiritual practices and trauma healing, how to connect to and receive guidance from your inner heart space, and how your practice can transcend silent sitting to become a conduit for spiritual growth and deeper intuition.

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✨ Susanne Ahlendorf is a non-medical practitioner for psychotherapy, a group leader for meditation and Inner Science practice, who accompanies people on their personal and spiritual development path. For her, meditation is a way of unfolding love in life.

Connect with Susanne here:

👉 https://www.susanneahlendorf.de

✨ Martin Bruders is a qualified social worker, mediator, and coach. He worked for over 28 years as a comedian and presenter at over 2000 corporate events in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. His inner exploration journey is as much about his meditation practice as it is about his daily life. He loves to permeate life deeper and deeper, always in search of intimacy with the divine; sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing.

Connect with Martin here:

👉 https://www.martinbruders.de

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core ins