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Can You Regulate a Machine? Walt Lukken on the CFTC's Innovation Committee

Can You Regulate a Machine? Walt Lukken on the CFTC's Innovation Committee

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CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol host Renato Mariotti takes a deep dive into the CFTC's inaugural Innovation Advisory Committee. Renato breaks down the viral, spicy exchange between CME Group CEO Terry Duffy and CFTC Chairman Michael Selig over event contracts and market manipulation, and introduces his own comment-letter concept "accountability arbitrage" that focuses on the enforcement gap that opens up when an AI agent authors a trading strategy. He then sits down with the committee's chair, Walt Lukken, President and CEO of the Futures Industry Association and a former acting CFTC chairman, who explains why Chairman Selig stood up the committee, how FIA is welcoming retail-first and formerly-offshore entrants while holding the line on customer protections, and why the hardest open question in the room was how to hold a machine accountable.

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Chapters:

00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:15 The Story of the Week: The CFTC's Innovation Advisory Committee

01:50 The Viral Clip: Duffy vs. Selig on Event Contracts

02:45 A Fight Playing Out in the CME–CFTC Lawsuit

03:19 A Titanic Shift: TradFi Meets Blockchain

03:59 The Real Frontier: Agentic Finance

04:34 Accountability Arbitrage and Agentic Trading

06:33 Walt Lukken Joins the Show

07:00 Why Chairman Selig Built the Committee

08:21 FIA's Big Tent: Offshore to Onshore

09:49 Futures, Crypto and Prediction Markets Converge

11:43 Letting the Disagreements Be Aired

13:14 The AI Session: Holding a Machine Accountable

15:23 A Good First Year and the Tokenization Push

17:14 Renato's Debrief: A Working Committee

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