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How much does it cost to preserve a song that belongs to everyone and no one? The Clown Cast dives into the obsessive, dangerous, heartbreaking world of folk music collectors—from John Lomax's harrowing road through the Jim Crow South with 315 pounds of recording equipment, to Béla Bartók's wax-cylinder-filled cart across Eastern Europe. A story about what happens when one person decides to carry the weight of an entire culture's music. 00:00 - Introduction: The Question That Isn't Simple 02:30 - The Folk Music Collectors & Episode 60 Callback 06:00 - John Lomax: 10,000 Songs & A Car Trunk in the South 11:30 - Béla Bartók: Wax Cylinders Across Empires 15:45 - The Real Cost: Danger, Dispossession & Legacy --- Sources & further reading: • Council for Library and Information Resources — Folk Heritage Collections in Crisis: The Response of a Profession: https://www.clir.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/pub96_57d70f70b0c3b.pdf • Association for Cultural Equity — Alan Lomax biography and collection overview: https://www.culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/about-alan • Library of Congress — Alan Lomax Manuscripts Collection: https://www.loc.gov/collections/alan-lomax-manuscripts/about-this-collection/ • Marcie R. Rendon — SongCatcher: A Native Perspective of Frances Densmore: https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2r87r82g • Maria Popova / The Marginalian — "The Woman Who Saved Native Song" (on Densmore): https://www.themarginalian.org/2022/11/03/frances-densmore/ • St. Olaf College — "Frances Densmore: Can We Learn from 'White Saviors'?": https://pages.stolaf.edu/americanmusic/2022/11/29/frances-densmore-can-we-learn-from-white-saviors/ • Maria Popova / The Marginalian — "Nikolai Vavilov and the Living Library of Resilience": https://www.themarginalian.org/2023/03/08/nikolai-vavilov/ • Science History Institute — "The Tragedy of the World's First Seed Bank" • Hektoen International — "Béla Bartók: The Years in America": https://hekint.org/2021/11/30/bela-bartok-1881-1945-the-years-in-america-triumph-over-tragedy/ • Arbiter Records — "Bartók Exploring Transylvania": https://arbiterrecords.org/bartok-exploring-transylvania/ • American Blues Scene — "Blues Law: Lead Belly vs. Lomax": https://www.americanbluesscene.com/2014/01/blues-law-lead-belly-vs-lomax/ • Ted Gioia / Techdirt — chain of sampling rights from Lomax to Jay-Z: https://www.techdirt.com/2011/09/02/insane-chain-sampling-rights-how-folk-song-collector-became-co-author-jay-z-song/ • WUNC — "How Cecil Sharp Collected the Sights and Sounds of Appalachia": https://www.wunc.org/arts-culture/2017-01-26/how-cecil-sharp-collected-the-sights-and-sounds-of-appalachia • English Folk Dance and Song Society — Cecil Sharp biography: https://www.efdss.org/learning/resources/beginners-guides/35-english-folk-collectors/2446-efdss-cecil-sharp • Oxford Academic / JIPLP — "Folk Music Collectors and Intellectual Property": https://academic.oup.com/jiplp/article/20/5/324/7923212 • International Council for Traditional Music — Statement on Indigenous Australian Music and Dance (2011) • Smithsonian Folkways — institutional overview: https://folkways.si.edu/ • Percy Grainger Society — "Percy Grainger's Ethnographic Wax Cylinders": https://percygrainger.org/blog/6177078 • Humanities Texas — John Lomax biography: https://www.humanitiestexas.org/programs/tx-originals/list/john-avery-lomax • Courthouse News — "Copyright Fight Over Woody Guthrie Classic": https://www.courthousenews.com/copyright-fight-over-woody-guthrie-classic/ • Journal of Agriculture, Food Systems, and Community Development — "Saving Seeds: Svalbard, Native American Seed-Savers, and Problems of Property": https://foodsystemsjournal.org/index.php/fsj/article/view/319 This podcast episode was fully generated by AI — research, script, voices, and production. Built with Claude, Piper TTS, and automated pipeline tooling.