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Back to Episodes“Twenty Years from RSI to Takeoff: Slow Learning, Scaling Slowdown, Industrial Explosion” by Vladimir_Nesov
Description
Industrial explosion is what will make the next-model building loops (and thus learning) with LLMs 1000 times faster by about 2050, if indeed the slow-learning prosaic RSI becomes AGI before the big compute buildout slowdown of 2032+ that is already starting. This puts an upper bound on how long it takes to invent ASI that sets off software-only singularity, implementing efficient online learning and fixing all the other hobblings of the likely near-future AGI technology (LLMs/pretraining/RL). The invention of ASI in that sense is still possible at any time (and very quickly scales, given all the compute), but the likely initial state of slow-learning AGIs of 2028 to 2032 doesn't seem to give them a significant advantage over humanity in getting there faster. And so it doesn't seem too unlikely that nothing substantively new gets invented until 2040 to 2050, when the LLM/RL AGIs start accelerating because of the industrial explosion they set off.
Fast Reasoning, Slow Learning
The current methods are likely to enable automated general learning (thus AGI) very soon, using automated creation of RL tasks/environments/graders filling the visible gaps in model capability for the topics and situations that happen to be borderline unfamiliar for [...]
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Outline:
(01:14) Fast Reasoning, Slow Learning
(02:53) Compute Slowdown, Industrial Explosion
(05:46) Prosaic Timeline to Takeoff
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First published:
August 23rd, 2026
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.