Episode Details

Jordan and Nate pre record this one but still pack in plenty, starting with RFK's ongoing Real Food Show and a genuinely fascinating podcast episode with a very deaf Lou Ferrigno on ditching diet culture for good. From there they dig into Trump's pick for FDA commissioner, Dr. Heidi Overton, and why her ties to the recent childhood vaccine executive order have some old guard MAHA voices nervous. The big one this week is Fauci's longtime NIAID advisor pleading guilty to a federal conspiracy involving hidden COVID records, with ties back to Eco Health Alliance and the gain of function money trail. They also break down a new FDA rule closing a decades old food safety loophole, debate a splashy Moderna and Merck mRNA cancer vaccine, and wrap with a genuinely thoughtful conversation about the federal roadless rule and what it means for wildfire management out west. Equal parts hard news and honest back and forth between friends.