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Product Owners Earn Team Loyalty By Showing Up, Learning, And Deciding | Joshua McDonald
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"I've seen developers be fiercely loyal to their product owner who makes that type of effort." - Joshua McDonald
Joshua describes the great Product Owner as someone who connects with the team even without a technical background. They do not pretend to know everything. Instead, they get into refinement with curiosity, write stories with the developers, and say, "I think this is what needs to be done, but correct me if I'm wrong." That vulnerability creates a strong partnership. Developers see the effort and often respond with loyalty, to the point where they may refuse to continue important discussions without the Product Owner in the room. The lesson is useful for Scrum Masters coaching Product Owners: deep technical expertise is not the entry ticket. Presence, curiosity, and the willingness to learn with the team are what create trust.
Self-reflection Question: How does your Product Owner show the team they are willing to learn the product with them?
The Bad Product Owner: The Dependent Note TakerRead the full Show Notes and search through the world's largest audio library on Agile and Scrum directly on the Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast website: http://bit.ly/SMTP_ShowNotes.
"Sometimes you ask the product owner, you're the bus driver, where do you want us to go? And they say, let me go talk with the product manager." - Joshua McDonald
The Product Owner anti-pattern Joshua highlights is the dependent PO: the person who shows up as a note taker rather than a decision maker. This often happens when a Product Manager sits behind the PO and every decision has to be checked elsewhere. The day-to-day symptoms are easy to spot: camera off, muted, disconnected, asking people to repeat questions, missing meetings they scheduled themselves, and leaving the team without timely answers. Joshua's coaching response starts with one-on-ones, support, and curiosity. He asks how they are doing, what support they need, and what signals would help the team see they are engaged. When the product feels too technical, he sits beside them, learns with them, and helps them build confidence instead of leaving them exposed.
Self-reflection Question: Where is your Product Owner dependent on someone else for decisions, and how is that affecting the team?
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