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Episode 107
Published 1 month, 3 weeks ago
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00:00 Show Kickoff
Matt and RJ get things started, with Lani on assignment, and jump into a viewer-question-heavy episode before moving into the increasingly messy state of credit card ecosystems.
Viewer Questions
01:32 Hard Truths in Points & Miles
If you had to pick one “hard truth” of the points & miles game that everyone should know, what would it be and why?
DDAF The biggest one: travel is not actually free. Points and miles still require spending, annual fees, opportunity cost, and sometimes a surprising amount of work. Another uncomfortable truth is that people in this hobby may not be quite as clever as they think they are. 04:35 Bilt Collections Glitch Where would you place “improper collection actions on cardholders’ credit reports” on a list of best Bilt Rent Day bonuses of the year? Better than an Odell Beckham Jr. football, not as good as a Madonna exclusive Confessions II vinyl?
SJDP1234 Matt and RJ discuss reports that some longtime Bilt users received erroneous collections notices tied to Bilt’s previous issuer relationship. Bilt has reportedly been working to remove the marks and offering affected users 2,500 points, but the potential consequences are much more serious if someone happens to be applying for a mortgage or another major loan. Not exactly the Rent Day bonus anyone was hoping for. 13:38 Rent Day Guests Talk The conversation continues into Bilt’s broader Rent Day strategy and how its increasingly elaborate promotions compare with the very real downside of something going wrong on the credit-reporting side. 15:01 Referral Links Debate Would the credit card world be a better place if referral programs disappeared entirely?
DDAF Probably in some ways. Referral and affiliate programs create obvious incentives for people covering credit cards to recommend products that pay them rather than products that are actually best for the audience. Better disclosure helps, but removing those incentives entirely would fundamentally change the economics of credit card media. Matt and RJ debate how much referral links actually distort coverage and whether the industry would become more trustworthy without them. 22:44 Alaska Trip Card Pick Planning to fly from Honolulu, HI to Anchorage, AK on a family vacation with five people. Alaska Airlines appears to be the only airline flying nonstop between the two locations. Would you suggest getting the Alaska Summit card or the Bilt Palladium card for the welcome bonus to help pay for the trip?
Ron B The Alaska Summit card gets the edge, especially for someone who will actually be flying Alaska Airlines. Bilt Palladium may offer broader flexibility, but for a five-person trip specifically built around Alaska-operated flights, Alaska’s own ecosystem is likely the more practical fit. 24:51 Summit vs. Palladium Matt and RJ dig further into the tradeoffs between the Alaska Summit card and Bilt Palladium, including the value of flexibility versus choosing a card that more directly matches the trip being planned. 27:31 US Bank Transfer Partner Wish If you were able to pick just one transfer partner for US Bank to acquire, what would you want it to be and why?
Zabber The goal should be differentiation rather than simply copying the partner lists of Chase, Amex, Citi, and Capital One. 29:11 The Missing Korean Air Korean Air emerges as the dream addition. It would give US Bank something genuinely distinctive and provide access to a program that is difficult to reach through the major US transferable currencies. 32:46 Dream Transfer Partner List Matt and RJ expand the discussion beyond Korean Air and talk about what makes a transfer partner genuinely useful. A strong new program does not necessarily need the longest possible partner list. Sometimes one or two hard-to-access partners can make an ecosystem far more interesting than adding another collection of airlines already available everywhere else. Topics 34:38 US Bank
DDAF The biggest one: travel is not actually free. Points and miles still require spending, annual fees, opportunity cost, and sometimes a surprising amount of work. Another uncomfortable truth is that people in this hobby may not be quite as clever as they think they are. 04:35 Bilt Collections Glitch Where would you place “improper collection actions on cardholders’ credit reports” on a list of best Bilt Rent Day bonuses of the year? Better than an Odell Beckham Jr. football, not as good as a Madonna exclusive Confessions II vinyl?
SJDP1234 Matt and RJ discuss reports that some longtime Bilt users received erroneous collections notices tied to Bilt’s previous issuer relationship. Bilt has reportedly been working to remove the marks and offering affected users 2,500 points, but the potential consequences are much more serious if someone happens to be applying for a mortgage or another major loan. Not exactly the Rent Day bonus anyone was hoping for. 13:38 Rent Day Guests Talk The conversation continues into Bilt’s broader Rent Day strategy and how its increasingly elaborate promotions compare with the very real downside of something going wrong on the credit-reporting side. 15:01 Referral Links Debate Would the credit card world be a better place if referral programs disappeared entirely?
DDAF Probably in some ways. Referral and affiliate programs create obvious incentives for people covering credit cards to recommend products that pay them rather than products that are actually best for the audience. Better disclosure helps, but removing those incentives entirely would fundamentally change the economics of credit card media. Matt and RJ debate how much referral links actually distort coverage and whether the industry would become more trustworthy without them. 22:44 Alaska Trip Card Pick Planning to fly from Honolulu, HI to Anchorage, AK on a family vacation with five people. Alaska Airlines appears to be the only airline flying nonstop between the two locations. Would you suggest getting the Alaska Summit card or the Bilt Palladium card for the welcome bonus to help pay for the trip?
Ron B The Alaska Summit card gets the edge, especially for someone who will actually be flying Alaska Airlines. Bilt Palladium may offer broader flexibility, but for a five-person trip specifically built around Alaska-operated flights, Alaska’s own ecosystem is likely the more practical fit. 24:51 Summit vs. Palladium Matt and RJ dig further into the tradeoffs between the Alaska Summit card and Bilt Palladium, including the value of flexibility versus choosing a card that more directly matches the trip being planned. 27:31 US Bank Transfer Partner Wish If you were able to pick just one transfer partner for US Bank to acquire, what would you want it to be and why?
Zabber The goal should be differentiation rather than simply copying the partner lists of Chase, Amex, Citi, and Capital One. 29:11 The Missing Korean Air Korean Air emerges as the dream addition. It would give US Bank something genuinely distinctive and provide access to a program that is difficult to reach through the major US transferable currencies. 32:46 Dream Transfer Partner List Matt and RJ expand the discussion beyond Korean Air and talk about what makes a transfer partner genuinely useful. A strong new program does not necessarily need the longest possible partner list. Sometimes one or two hard-to-access partners can make an ecosystem far more interesting than adding another collection of airlines already available everywhere else. Topics 34:38 US Bank