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From Vegan to Carnivore: How the Paleolithic Ketogenic Diet (PKD) Reversed Joint Pain & Binge Eating
Description
In this episode, I sit down with Natalie Daniels — a nutrition therapist, author, and educator with more than a decade of experience in therapeutic nutrition. She works with clients around the world and continues to work alongside Paleomedicina in Budapest, supporting people using the protocol in practice. Over the past decade, she has worked with more than a thousand people and become known for translating complex nutritional concepts into practical, everyday strategies.
Here's what we cover in the episode:
Natalie's 15-year search through vegan, vegetarian, and fruit-based diets — and the six years of joint pain, brain fog, and binge eating that followed
The Ayurvedic pulse diagnosis in India that led her to discover the Paleolithic Ketogenic Diet
What actually differentiates PKD from a standard carnivore diet — fat ratios, organ meats, and its use as a clinical nutritional intervention
Her year living in Hungary training with Paleomedicina, running healing retreats for patients flying in from around the world
A client's Crohn's disease remission after four months on PKD
Being diagnosed with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and becoming, in her words, "allergic to life itself" — despite a spotless diet
Why calming her nervous system, not restricting her diet further, was what finally resolved her reactions
The role of identity, self-talk, and limiting beliefs in real, lasting health transformation
Her daily movement practice
Her favorite breathwork techniques for stress, energy, and returning to the present moment
The biggest lesson from a decade of client work: the body never responds to one input alone
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Timestamps
00:00 — Intro
02:20 — Natalie's personal story begins
02:37 — Health decline through 15 years of plant-based eating
05:09 — Discovering the Paleolithic Ketogenic Diet
06:40 — Moving to Hungary & writing the PKD cookbook
08:28 — What makes PKD different from carnivore
09:50 — Working with Paleomedicina in Hungary
10:35 — A client's Crohn's disease remission
12:59 — Her private practice today
14:19 — Why diet alone isn't always enough
16:40 — Diagnosed with MCAS — "allergic to life itself" (full story)
19:51 — The nervous system/immune system connection
21:23 — Identity, self-talk, and real transformation
23:25 — Movement, daily training & movement snacks
25:30 — The Katy Bowman influence
28:17 — Where to start with limited mobility
32:08 — Favorite breathwork techniques
37:01 — Biggest lessons from a decade with clients
39:55 — Closing message: relax, the body wants to heal
40:32 — Where to find Natalie & what's next
Connect with Natalie here:
https://www.instagram.com/ancestralcarnivore/
https://nataliedaniels.me/
Disclaimer: The information on this channel is for educational purposes and is not intended to be a substitute for medical advice or therapy. The views and opinions expressed by podcast guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Kristina Dobyns or Beyond Binge Eating.