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Who is Natalie, and why was she in a catering truck with Donald Trump? Amelia Lester untangles the mystery that's sent half the internet down a rabbit hole, and what it reveals about the president's inner circle. 

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And, Em Vernem shares the story of Hayden Panettiere, and how her sudden death has impacted an entire generation.

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