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The natural immunity framing from the COVID years carried the same premise underneath: strong enough to get through it and you live, and if not, that is simply how it goes. Applied to a country where most people accumulate two or three chronic conditions with age, that is a policy with a serious body count. Measles is already back at levels not seen in decades.

Bouie's closing point is the one that stuck: Trump has no ideology beyond himself. The ideologues are Stephen Miller and Russ Vought - both of whom are happy to implement racist policies targeting those who are vulnerable in the US.

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