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Another Firefighter Lost 30 Minutes Ago. Why ‘Never Forget’ Became A Punchline. His 9/11 Anniversary Message: “Don't Be A Dick”. Inside The Deutsche Bank Fire. The Halloween Attack. The Illnesses Still Killing First Responders.

Rob Serra is a legendary FDNY firefighter whose first day on the job was September 11, 2001. He's spent the twenty-plus years since burying brothers, fighting his own government for basic acknowledgement that the air wasn't clean, and refusing to let the country slide into the comfortable amnesia of an annual hashtag. In this conversation, Paul Rieckhoff sits down with Rob as another FDNY firefighter dies of a 9/11 illness thirty minutes before they hit record — a gut-punch reminder that 9/11 is not a memory, it's still killing people this week.

They get into the moral injury that connects 9/11 first responders to Afghanistan veterans: the same government that stood at the microphones promising "never forget" is the same government that told sick firefighters to go beg, and the same government that left Americans and allies on a tarmac in Kabul. Rob talks about the 257 FDNY brothers lost to 9/11 illness, the Deutsche Bank fire, raising kids while his body breaks down, an eight-year-old son who called him lazy, and why his sign-off is "stay low." It's raw, it's specific, and it's the kind of conversation that reminds you why humanity — not partisanship — is the thing worth protecting.

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