Episode Details

A former middle school friend of Bryan Kohberger, Jack Baylis, described Kohberger as someone who had struggled with dating and had expressed frustration toward women years before the murders of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin. Baylis said the two had talked about being ignored or “ghosted” by women and about their difficulties with the dating scene. He also recalled Kohberger sending messages in which he said he had been depressed for a long time and had developed what he described as a strange sense of meaning. Baylis further claimed that Kohberger sometimes became aggressive when he drank, to the point that friends would hide his car keys, and said Kohberger had also used other drugs. The account was presented as part of an examination of Kohberger’s background and personality, rather than as evidence directly connecting him to the Moscow murders.

The discussion also explored whether Kohberger’s reported frustration with women offered any meaningful insight into his state of mind, although no established motive for the murders had been publicly proven at the time. A psychologist featured in the coverage noted that frustration over dating could be associated with some men who identified with or resembled the online “incel” subculture, but that observation did not establish that Kohberger himself belonged to such a group. The broader picture painted by Baylis was of a young man who had struggled socially, experienced depression, dealt with substance abuse and could become difficult or aggressive under certain circumstances. Those recollections attracted attention because three of the four victims were women, but they remained retrospective accounts from someone who had known Kohberger years earlier and were not, by themselves, proof of motive or guilt in the killings.


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