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What if the life you're chasing isn't actually the one you want?

In this episode, Diane sits down with speaker and author Justin Jones-Fosu to explore the subtle difference between chasing success and creating a life of meaning. Inspired by the timeless fable of the tortoise and the hare, Justin's newest book, Stop Chasing, Start Creating, challenges the cultural narrative that fulfillment comes from achievement, recognition, or constantly proving ourselves.

Together, they unpack why so many of us spend our lives pursuing someone else's definition of success - and how that pursuit often leaves us exhausted, disconnected, and wondering why "more" never feels like enough. Justin shares practical ways to move from external validation to internal alignment, embrace purposeful work, and intentionally create a life rooted in contribution rather than comparison.

Links Discussed in This Episode |

• Checkout the podcast storefront for recommendations from Diane.
• Subscribe to the Minimalist Moms Youtube Channel
• Diane's Resource: Mercy in the Margin by Chelsey Dematteis
• Previous Episode: [REPLAY] I Respectfully Disagree: The Lost Art of Disagreeing Well | Justin Jones-Fosu
• Book: The Gap and The Gain: The High Achievers' Guide to Happiness, Confidence, and Success
• The Meaningful 67 Challenge
• Justin's Resource: Man's Search for Meaning by Vicktor Frankel
• Justin Can't Stop Talking:
• Connect with Justin
• Website
• LinkedIn
• Book: Stop Chasing, Start Creating: A Timeless Fable on Mindset, Resilience, and Meaningful Work

About Justin |

Justin is a meaningful work researcher and the author of Stop Chasing, Start Creating, and has written for Oprah Daily, Fast Company, HuffPost, and Business Insider. You can take a look at his latest TEDx talk here.

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