Episode Details

What happens after individuals with profound autism age out of the school system?

In this episode of Autism Labs, Mike Carr sits down with Jon Hockenyos, a father and advocate navigating life with a profoundly autistic adult son. Together, they explore what truly drives growth, independence and quality of life in adulthood and why many traditional programs fall short.

Drawing from real-world experience, they discuss the importance of environment, leadership and culture in autism services. They also share practical insights on preparing for transition, avoiding common pitfalls and creating opportunities for continued development well beyond childhood.

Key themes include:

• Redefining independence in profound autism
• The impact of environment on behavior and learning
• Why staff consistency is critical
• Preparing early for life after 18 and 22
• Creating communities where individuals can thrive

This episode is essential listening for parents, caregivers and professionals seeking better outcomes for autistic adults.

Watch the Full Podcast here:

• Part 1: https://youtu.be/ImPfpktqfcQ?si=ll_nxoH2QeXlGP9W
• Part 2: https://youtu.be/e12UVMROLjg?si=wX6pFyF1V_bKXDA4