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We’re back with a new episode of Mess World, a podcast collaboration between FLESH WORLD (by me, Jessica DeFino) and I <3 Mess (a fashion newsletter from Emily Kirkpatrick).

Today we’re talking about: The next Lowbrow Book Club read [4:00], Marie Claire Australia’s AI faux pas [9:01], the whole Jessica vs. Jia Tolentino mess [22:15], insider intel re: Travis Kelce’s wedding outfit (it’s rough) [35:45], Caroline Calloway’s “nothing tastes as good as fraudulently-acquired Ozempic feels” essay [50:46], the rise of sea hag-esque shredded gowns [59:40], embodiment vs. “embottlement” [1:11:09], is Aaron Rogers dating an AI chatbot?? [1:16:03], a feminist argument for critiquing influencers [1:18:00], an ode to Jimothy [1:30:54], and a takedown of Tarte’s Glambulance [1:33:12]. Plus more!

Media we mentioned: Ways of Seeing [John Berger], GET OFF MY HOLE! bumper stickers [FLESH WORLD], “They Used GLP-1s to Lose Weight. They Ended Up in Treatment for Anorexia.” [WSJ], “A Completely Smooth Forehead Is Out. ‘Strategic Wrinkles’ Are In.” [WSJ], “Everyone Wants to Smell Like a Pretty Kitty This Summer” [Byrdie], Perfection [Vincenzo Latronico]

Also: We’re on YouTube now, for those who prefer to watch their podcasts!

About the podcast: Mess World is a podcast by Jessica DeFino and Emily Kirkpatrick that takes a critical look at the dregs of pop culture. Jessica is the writer behind FLESH WORLD, which has been called the newsletter “the beauty industry fears,” and Emily is the creator of

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