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The Washington Roundtable’s Jane Mayer interviews Andrew Weissmann, a former prosecutor for the Department of Justice who served as a lead member of the Mueller investigation, about what meaningful legal accountability in the Trump Administration looks like. He points to a fix that would raise the bar for federal grand-jury indictments, and explains why he believes that Donald Trump’s disputed I.R.S. settlement may not survive legal scrutiny. He also makes the case, drawn from his new book, “Liar’s Kingdom: How to Stop Trump’s Deceit and Save America,” for treating political lying itself as a problem that the law can address. “We have to be thinking about big, bold ideas,” Weissmann says.

This week’s reading:

• “The Future, Made in China,” by Evan Osnos
• “How Roy Cohn Taught Donald Trump Everything,” by Kai Bird and Susan Goldmark
• “Why Donald Trump Talks So Much About Foreign Election Interference,” by David D. Kirkpatrick
• “The Electability of Abdul El-Sayed,” by Jason Zengerle

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