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Back to EpisodesTargeting the Device, Not the Person: Richard Grove & William Binney on Metadata Strikes & Double Taps
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Former CIA/NSA Director General Michael Hayden once admitted: "We kill people based on metadata." But how does that actually work in practice? 🛑
In this chilling interview clip, Richard Grove questions former NSA Technical Director William Binney on how intelligence agencies use phone GPS coordinates and computer location data to execute targeted drone strikes. Binney exposes a fatal flaw in the targeting logic: agencies target the device, not the person—meaning if a target hands off their phone, an innocent civilian gets hit instead.
Their interview conversation also exposes the brutal "double tap" protocol. Binney explains to Richard how drone operators fire a strike and then wait for rescuers or family members to arrive on scene before launching a second strike—an indiscriminate practice Binney categorizes as "random slaughter."