Episode Details

Watch the full interview here: 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3owk7vEEOvs

What if mass domestic spying wasn't a spontaneous reaction to 9/11, but a pre-planned blueprint waiting for a crisis? 🛑

In this eye-opening interview clip, Richard Grove asks former NSA Technical Director William Binney about the true origin of program "Stellar Wind." Binney reveals that by October 2001, the agency was already ingesting roughly 320 million records of AT&T domestic long-distance calls every single day—without warrants or probable cause.

Their interview conversation exposes how telecom giants granted physical access to main fiber-optic lines. Binney explains to Richard how specialized Narus devices were installed in secret rooms—like the San Francisco AT&T facility later exposed by whistleblower Mark Klein—allowing state agencies to tap directly into World Wide Web traffic and monitor everyday citizens.